For the US based competition pilots. There have been a number of
changes and enhancements made to WINSCORE for 2011 (WINSCORE is the
program used to score US based competitions).

1 - some nice enhancements for new and experienced scorers
2 - A few YOUTUBE tutorial videos to demystify how to get started and
how to use certain features of WINSCORE. Hoping more are planned.
3 - An updated Users Guide for 2011.

A big 'Atta Boy' to Guy Byars and others that assisted.

Ron Gleason

Here here! Thank you very much Guy Byars (and anyone else who helped) for
everything you do for us contest glider pilots!!!

Paul Remde

"Ron Gleason" > wrote in message
...
> For the US based competition pilots. There have been a number of
> changes and enhancements made to WINSCORE for 2011 (WINSCORE is the
> program used to score US based competitions).
>
> 1 - some nice enhancements for new and experienced scorers
> 2 - A few YOUTUBE tutorial videos to demystify how to get started and
> how to use certain features of WINSCORE. Hoping more are planned.
> 3 - An updated Users Guide for 2011.
>
> A big 'Atta Boy' to Guy Byars and others that assisted.
>
> Ron Gleason

>
> A big 'Atta Boy' to Guy Byars and others that assisted.
>
> Ron Gleason

Let's not forget all those that had input into the changes and
development of WINSCORE.
without all the 'besta beta" testers...it wouldn't be the robust and
easy program it is today.
I remember the days when poor Guy used to sit on the phone for hours
with all of us
trying to use it. Guy, it certainly has grown up to be a very reliant
dependable adult program!

yes, there are LOTS of thank yous to be be sent for WINSCORE.

Micki

Have not had a chance to try it yet, but I do hope Guy et al will
address this issue, if has not been covered yet:

When WINSCORE loads a log file, it tries to associate the pilot name
in the log file to one of the names in the registration list by
finding an *exact* match, and it stops there if it does not find one.
I would like it to attempt to match using the competition ID,
preferably first before comparing pilot names.

There is one pilot in our ASA contest this year who has no first name,
goes by Bergh/Wagner in WINSCORE, the SN10 has the right competition
ID but I can't change it :)

Just wishing ...

tuN7o

On Apr 20, 10:12*am, Tuno > wrote:
> Have not had a chance to try it yet, but I do hope Guy et al will
> address this issue, if has not been covered yet:
>
> When WINSCORE loads a log file, it tries to associate the pilot name
> in the log file to one of the names in the registration list by
> finding an *exact* match, and it stops there if it does not find one.
> I would like it to attempt to match using the competition ID,
> preferably first before comparing pilot names.
>
> There is one pilot in our ASA contest this year who has no first name,
> goes by Bergh/Wagner in WINSCORE, the SN10 has the right competition
> ID but I can't change it :)
>
> Just wishing ...
>
> tuN7o

The result is that a log file will be tagged "not a contestant" and a
contestant will be tagged as "no log found". It may preserve scorer
sanity if there was a means to associate the two entities.

For the case cited by Tuno the probem was solved by entering Berg/
Wagner as first name and a space for last name.

Of course Winscore is designed to support SSA regionals and nationals
and issues like this get resolved during the practice days. It's more
of an issue for the ASA series which is scored as a group of one day
contests in which the contestants are not always the same, people fly
different gliders with different contest numbers, and people change
classes. Winscore was not designed for this and the scorer is
constantly challenged to find ways to keep it happy.

I'd be curious to know how experienced Regional and Nationals scorers
handle team entries for contestant name, and what name is used in the
log file.

Andy

> When WINSCORE loads a log file, it tries to associate the pilot name
> in the log file to one of the names in the registration list by
> finding an *exact* match, and it stops there if it does not find one.
> I would like it to attempt to match using the competition ID,



This is not correct. Winscore first tries to match the competition ID
in the log file specificed by:

HFCIDCOMPETITIONID: XX

with the CID entered for the contestant in the registration list.

If no match is found, then it attempts to match the glider ID
specified by:

HFGIDGLIDERID: XX

with the CID entered for the contestant in the registration list. .

If no match is found with the CID or the GID, then and only then, does
it try an exact match of the pilot's name.

Guy Byars

On Apr 20, 12:00*pm, Guy Byars > wrote:
> > When WINSCORE loads a log file, it tries to associate the pilot name
> > in the log file to one of the names in the registration list by
> > finding an *exact* match, and it stops there if it does not find one.
> > I would like it to attempt to match using the competition ID,
>
> This is not correct. *Winscore first tries to match the competition ID
> in the log file specificed by:
>
> HFCIDCOMPETITIONID: XX
>
> with the CID entered for the contestant in the registration list.
>
> If no match is found, then it attempts to match the glider ID
> specified by:
>
> HFGIDGLIDERID: XX
>
> with the CID entered for the contestant in the registration list. *.
>
> If no match is found with the CID or the GID, then and only then, does
> it try an exact match of the pilot's name.
>
> Guy Byars

Yes, that would explain the obervation since the log header is:

AXCM0XMFLIGHT:1
HFDTE160411
HFFXA100
HFPLTPILOT:Bergh/Wagner
HFGTYGLIDERTYPE:LS 8
HFGIDGLIDERID:N666RB

There is a conflict in the use of HFGIDGLIDERID for logs that do not
also include HFCIDCOMPETITIONID, since badges and records seem to
require the registration to be entered and Winscore requires the
contest number (or a pilot name match)

Andy

The complete header from my last log file is:

AXCM0XMFLIGHT:1
HFDTE170411
HFFXA100
HFPLTPILOT:Bergh/Wagner
HFGTYGLIDERTYPE:LS 8
HFGIDGLIDERID:N666RB
HFDTM100GPSDATUM:WGS-1984
HFRFWFIRMWAREVERSION:4.02.002
HFFTYFRTYPE:SeeYou Mobile
HFGPS:Ilec SN10,
HFCIDCOMPETITIONID:N7
HFCCLCOMPETITIONCLASS:Standard

.... so the COMPETITIONID is correctly set to N7. Why then does
WINSCORE not associate the log to the registration entry for (N7,
Bergh/Wagner), if the log has "Ted Wagner" instead of "Bergh/Wagner"?
(Iirc, this is the reason I had to change the pilot name in SeeYou
Mobile from my name to "Bergh/Wagner", and I didn't really want to do
that.)

Would it help if I set the GLIDERID to N7 as well?

On Apr 20, 4:17*pm, Tuno > wrote:
> The complete header from my last log file is:
>
> AXCM0XMFLIGHT:1
> HFDTE170411
> HFFXA100
> HFPLTPILOT:Bergh/Wagner
> HFGTYGLIDERTYPE:LS 8
> HFGIDGLIDERID:N666RB
> HFDTM100GPSDATUM:WGS-1984
> HFRFWFIRMWAREVERSION:4.02.002
> HFFTYFRTYPE:SeeYou Mobile
> HFGPS:Ilec SN10,
> HFCIDCOMPETITIONID:N7
> HFCCLCOMPETITIONCLASS:Standard
>
> ... so the COMPETITIONID is correctly set to N7. Why then does
> WINSCORE not associate the log to the registration entry for (N7,
> Bergh/Wagner), if the log has "Ted Wagner" instead of "Bergh/Wagner"?
> (Iirc, this is the reason I had to change the pilot name in SeeYou
> Mobile from my name to "Bergh/Wagner", and I didn't really want to do
> that.)
>
> Would it help if I set the GLIDERID to N7 as well?

Don't know. I don't see why you log wouldn't work given Guy's
explanation of the order of precedence. All I know is that your log
could not be scored until I forced the names to match exactly.

If some experimentation shows the log cannot be associated by
HFCIDCOMPETITIONID:N7
then I'll follow up with Guy.

I'd still like to know how other scorers handle team names but, other
than that, I think we can sort this out on the local forum or by
email.

Andy

> I'd still like to know how other scorers handle team names but, other
> than that, I think we can sort this out on the local forum or by
> email.


Yes, a direct email to me with your Winscore issue/problem/suggestion
is the best way to resolve such things.


Guy Byars